ZipCodeShop – a word of warning
For the past year I’ve been involved in developing a social networking type website where we wanted the ability to do a “radius search”, ie you could for example ask for a list of all site members who live within 10km of you, or all health food stores etc etc. The site is being built on the Joomla framework using Community Builder. One of the reasons we went with this combination rather than dedicated social networking software, or a dedicated social networking Joomla component like JomSocial was because of the availability of a “Community Builder Zip Code Radius Search Component” (for searching members) and a “Mosets Tree Radius Search Component” (for searching a directory of businesses) from a company called ZipCodeShop.
Alas, our experience with ZipCodeShop (ZCS), despite starting well, has not been a good one. I contacted them and told them I was looking at buying both components, and they were more than helpful. I purchased the ZCS Community Builder component, for US$99, and started trying to implement it in my site. I sort of got it working, and for 2 days ZCS support via email were extremely fast, and extremely helpful – though they did continue to ignore requests to be given access to their support forums. The component itself was encoded and hardcoded with a licence linked to my domain name. This concerned me as we had plans to change the domain name, but they assured me it would be no problem to do so. After a couple of days I was still having a few problems, and they informed me a new version was coming the following week, and that prices would be increasing - so I should buy the Moset’s tree version straight away. I elected not to do so.
That was in February. Since then I have lodged more than a dozen support ticket requests and followups through their online ticketing system. I have sent numerous emails directly. I have left messages with their Live Online Support. I’ve even tried several international phone calls. Nothing. I would be concerned they had gone of business, or the principles had some serious health issues or similar, but at the end of April a message appeared on their site stating they were upgrading their site and the new one would be up at the end of the week. At the end of the week, the message disappeared but nothing else changed. Thus, I’m left with an encoded component who’s bugs I cannot fix, and which I cannot easily customised for my purposes, as I was assured I could.
Sadly, posts on Joomlapolis indicate my experience is not unique. I left further messages last week advising ZipCodeShop I would be doing this blog post, but there has been no response.
In the meantime I’ve developed a replacement component to the ZipCodeShop radius search component using the excellent Fabrik development framework, available at www.fabrikar.com. For those who have been left wanting by ZCS I’ll try to blog about my solution in the next week.



May 20th, 2009 at 23:44
I’m having the exact same problem. They responded initially when I needed the license and since then nothing. I’ve tried calling but that’s equally useless. It’s pretty sad.
I’m within 30 days so I’m thinking of disputing the charge. If you’ve got a Fabrikar solution I’d be more than happy to send the $99 your way.
Regards,
Leo
May 25th, 2009 at 16:11
I purchased 2 years ago and they were very responsive. I like the product so much, and I have a great relationship with Nancy and Mike I(owners) and Evan and Jeff (support), and I even beta tested and found or fixed a few minor bugs. I modified the code a time or two to fit my needs and posted the workaround on the forum (back when it worked), for others to use. I purchased a 2nd license for a different site at the suggestion of one of the devs because the price was supposed to go up within the next few weeks. That was a year ago this coming July.
Since then the code was encrypted and the support dwindled to absolutely nothing. I was trying to get a hold of a bug in the “category” dropdown and it was never fixed. All I got were promises of new versions, features that I was going to love and paid support. Week after week of them telling me that the new release would be out over the weekend; or after a new server test; or after a new vulnerability or bug was corrected. Then after all the waiting, Mosets Tree would have a version upgrade so they held off to rewrite or modify for the changes.
In early November 2008, the emails stopped. the live chat support had ceased a few weeks earlier and the phone was never answered. I sent support tickets and direct emails to the Mike and he finally responded in mid December.
Here it is:
Mark:
We received an investment/licensing agreement from a Fortune 500 firm which has allowed us to move to larger offices, and add servers/employees.
We are in the final stages of migrating to the new site. There will be quite a few changes in the licensing and support structure.
We will be announcing these changes in the next few days. There will be the option for full support including chat and phone but it will be supported by new fees.
Regards,
Michael W. Chalkley
CEO
ZipCodeShop.com
I thought “great” at last I will have something to work with. But now it’s May 25 2009 and there has been nothing, nadda, nix… el zippo! Unless you count the popup on their website that claimed that their server was being upgraded and the site refreshed… but that was supposed to be done “Over the Weekend” of April 24th – 26th. These clowns are worthless.
I will help with whatever I can. At first I wanted to de-ionize the code but I thought it was unethical. However if the code is not supported and the company is no longer developing it, then it would actually be a fork, so I suppose its still an option.
That’s when I came upon this blog and I read about Fabrik. I had not even thought of using it and truthfully I’d heard about it on J! extension sites but it seemed convoluted to me. I now have it and I am interested in your solution. Do you have documentation for your implementation? Will you share? I can help.
Mark Harris
June 6th, 2009 at 10:32
I am soo glad that I’m not the only one. Unfortunately I bought without reading up on it first. rookie mistake! I was just impressed on its demo. I will be eagerly awaiting to hear how you go with Fabrik, I have tried it before and got a little lost truth be told.
Perhaps I should have paid for the extra extensions, but I wasn’t too keen on spending more money that would go to waste…
July 8th, 2009 at 13:56
Hi,
We have been using ZipCodeShop for about 4 years and recently needed to move to another host. Having to use a Windows server for some of our other systems that reside on the server, we have had all sorts of problems with 500 errors when running ZipCodeShop.
Thought the simplest would be to change our directory to another domain that could run on a Linux server and so contacted support. No response to my support ticket. Tried the contact form – no response. Tried ringing from the UK – no response.
If the company has gone down then they should say so or take down their website not keep advertising their products. In my book that’s dishonest.
If you’ve come up with a solution using an alternative please let us know.
July 21st, 2009 at 00:21
Help!!!
My search function does not work anymore…it says I have a license problem..???
I paid for the software…last year. I didnt know it would time out on me. Does anyone have a solution….please…thanks.
August 2nd, 2009 at 16:10
David,
Please update us on the fix if you have one. Or let us know that you don’t. I am sure you understand what it feels like to be missing a solution. I have no idea how to fix this and I really rely on it… Appreciate any response or redirection to possible solutions….thanks a bunch for the blog on this….
August 3rd, 2009 at 19:58
Well I have one, but it’s not a simple plugin like the ZCS one. It requires quite a bit of customising for each site. I’m working on simplifying it and some step-by-step instructions. Fabrikar keeps updating their component which keeps me constantly out of date as well!
In short, the Fabrikar GoogleMaps visualization will show you any geocoded data you like. The only two “tricks” are geocoding database addresses and then selecting what you want to show.
Geocoding can be done by various other free components. A radius search requires comparing two geocoded addresses, I’ve simply created a SQL function for this and compare an address submitted by a form with an address already in the database. If you know SQL it’s not that hard to do. If you don’t know SQL, well … you’ll need a step-by-step!
February 4th, 2010 at 19:29
There are so many people facing the same situation these (ZCS)people ought to be in jail. Sadly I too became a victim in January. Why hasn’t the attorney gen. investigated ZCS for fraud/interstate wire fraud already? I encourage each of you to do the same- both in your home state and in GA.
There is a new extension called moxie maps. Visit http://www.moxieGoMoxieMedia.com I am not vouching for them but I just purchased and we are customizing it now.
February 4th, 2010 at 19:58
David,
How do we get ahold of you? I cannot find a link to email anywhere- Chris
February 4th, 2010 at 21:16
david@steadson.com works!